log output contains error messages in non-default language

[Kieren MacMillan]

[Lilypond 2.19.80, Frescobaldi 2.20.0, Mac OS X 10.12.6]

Hi all,

Is anyone else getting non-default language in their log output? My system default is English, and all of my files use \language "english" — yet many of the errors in my log output are in Ukrainian: e.g.

"попередження: тактова риска не співпадає біля: 1/4"

Any thoughts on how this might have started happening (n.b. unfortunately I can’t remember exactly when, or what I had done just before it started happening), and/or how to force the log to be in my system default language (English)?

Thanks,
Kieren.
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[David Kastrup]

Post by Kieren MacMillan
[Lilypond 2.19.80, Frescobaldi 2.20.0, Mac OS X 10.12.6]
Hi all,
Is anyone else getting non-default language in their log output? My
system default is English, and all of my files use \language "english"
— yet many of the errors in my log output are in Ukrainian: e.g.
"попередження: тактова риска не співпадає біля: 1/4"
Any thoughts on how this might have started happening
(n.b. unfortunately I can’t remember exactly when, or what I had done
just before it started happening), and/or how to force the log to be
in my system default language (English)?

Very stupid question: how come you recognize Ukrainian? That's
uncommon, and a system switching to Ukrainian (rather than, say, the
more common Russian) unprompted for is also uncommon, so there might be
some correlation (like you trying out a setting once).

A different hunch would be that, well, "UK English" and "Ukranian" are
both "UK" in some manner. If you chose to install a "UK" language pack
(or switch to it) it might have meant something different from what you
intended.

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi David,

Post by David Kastrup
Very stupid question: how come you recognize Ukrainian?

My wife’s background is Ukrainian; our children are being brought up with Ukrainian as their first language; I am somewhat conversational myself (I understand essentially everything they say or write, but am only ~25% "fluent" as a speaker and ~15% as a writer.)

That being said, I’m only 95% sure this is Ukrainian and not Russian: there are no "give-away" glyphs or combinations (i.e., those used often in Russian, but very rarely in Ukrainian), but it’s a small sample size.

Post by David Kastrup
there might be some correlation (like you trying out a setting once).

My computer — shared with my wife — definitely has system-level Ukrainian settings, though I don’t remember ever trying it for Lilypond or Frescobaldi. I’ll see if there’s a switch somewhere that I can [re]set.

Thanks!
Kieren.
________________________________

Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: ***@kierenmacmillan.info

[Christopher R. Maden]

Post by Kieren MacMillan
That being said, I’m only 95% sure this is Ukrainian and not
Russian: there are no "give-away" glyphs or combinations (i.e., those
used often in Russian, but very rarely in Ukrainian), but it’s a
small sample size.

Yes, there are — the Cyrillic dotted-i is not in Russian; Ukrainian is
the most prominent language that uses it.[*]

Post by Kieren MacMillan
My computer — shared with my wife — definitely has system-level
Ukrainian settings, though I don’t remember ever trying it for
Lilypond or Frescobaldi. I’ll see if there’s a switch somewhere that
I can [re]set.

It does seem likely that the program is picking up on user preferences.
If your primary language is set to uk-UA, that would probably do it.

~Chris

[*] <URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dotted_I_(Cyrillic) > tells me
that Belarusian and and a few other former-Soviet national languages use
it, too; I’ve only ever associated it with Ukrainian.

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi all,

the Cyrillic dotted-i is not in Russian; Ukrainian is the most prominent language that uses it.[*]

A-ha! Nice catch.

It does seem likely that the program is picking up on user preferences. If your primary language is set to uk-UA, that would probably do it.

That wasn’t it… *BUT* in the Lilypond preferences, there is a checkbox to "Run Lilypond with English messages", which was for some reason unchecked. Checking it solves my issue (though I’m still not sure why the "default" is Ukrainian!)

Thanks everyone!
I hope this archived thread helps someone else in the future.

Kieren.
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Kieren MacMillan, composer
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‣ email: ***@kierenmacmillan.info